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| You're right, that is a shorter approach. I'll add it to the "pinned" post.
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| Also, there aren't two "Administrator" accounts since it's impossible to do, as long as they are spelled the same anyway.
If you are in the "Administrators" group, then you are an Administrator of the computer. However you still have to go through the process of granting access to yourself to do certain levels of things, this is where the UAC comes in.
The functionality you see in Vista with UAC has been around since Win 2000, it's just that they more forcefully pushed it in with Vista. The kicker is that most developers didn't use the correct model when they write their programs, so the older way of doing things didn't work most of the time. The old way was to use the Run As feature.
Now MS is more or less forcing developers to use the new UAC. When developers really start to write for UAC you should find that you will not have to grant applications permission to do things as much since the coders will be leveraging the new UAC model more and letting more things happen while a user is in "Standard User Mode."
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| I tried that, a lot. Searched like a maniac for the "users and groups", but it is not on my machine. And if I am remembering correctly, there was another post somewhere about their lacking the "local users and groups" also. My Vista 32 version must be lacking this just as it is also lacking the 'secpol.msc'. The Vista Administrators reply to me concerning the 'secpol.msc' was:
"UPDATE: Apparently secpol.msc only works in Ultimate. The security policy widget is not included in the "Home" versions of Vista."
So, it doesn't surprise me that I'm lacking the section for 'users and groups'. What a waste of money this Vista has turned out to be! Nothing but problems. But then it came already loaded in my new Dell, and I didn't have much of a choice except to upgrade the Vista, but we were way over budget so I kept the '32' version. Dell offered only Vista to me, no other choice from them. Not being knowledgeable in computers, I just took what I was handed.
But thankfully, the Administrators here are super helpful, and helped resolve my main problem. Though the problems will keep rolling on, I'm sure. |
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| | Yes, if it's not Business or Ultimate, you won't have the local users and groups mmc. From what I understand you can also change the settings for Home ( Basic and Premium ) in the Control Panel under the Users applet. I don't have Vista yet, and when I do buy it I am going for 64bit Ultimate, which undoubtedly will still lead to confusion on fixing some problems. |
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| | After experimentation with both Home Basic and Home Premium, only two steps are necessary to unhide the administrator account, no registry changes are required. Step 1: Open a command window by going to all programs -> accessories and choosing the dos box, right click and RUN AS ADMINISTRATOR Step 2: type the following: net user Administrator /active:yes and hit enter Step 3: type the following: net user Administrator Password (where Password is whatever you want the admin password to be) and hit enter Type exit to close the dos box, reboot and your computer should present you with the option to login to your own account or the administrator account. That administrator password will be the one you set in the net user command above. Steve
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| Opteronguy (1/31/2008)
What about going to My Computer > Right Click > Manage > Local Users & Groups > Users > then enabling the Administrator account?
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| First, please read the posts before posting a problem. In this thread are instructions for what to do when you have the Home versions.
Second, please do not tack on problems to the pinned posts. If you have a problem, post a new thread.
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| | Hello! I tried part A, to no avail. Part B - from Admin Tools I did not see the Local Security Policy applet; maybe I misread, but I did not see a search box to type secpol.msc. Part C - did not see Local Users and Groups folder in Computer Management console. I've tried to move, delete and rename a folder and still receive "you need permission to perform this action". I am not a PC wiz by any stretch. Do I need simpler instructions? Your help will be greatly appreciated; my documents are in a mess. Dell Inspiron E1705, 2Gb mem., Vista.
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